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Saw III (2006)
IMDB rating: 6.40
Plot: Jigsaw has disappeared. Now aided by his new apprentice Amanda, the puppet-master behind the cruel, intricate games that have terrified a community and baffled police has once again eluded capture and vanished. While city detectives scramble to locate him, Dr. Lynn Denlon is unaware that she is about to become the latest pawn on his vicious chessboard. One night, after finishing a shift at her hospital, Lynn is kidnapped by the deranged Amanda and taken to an abandoned warehouse where she meets Jigsaw, aka: John Kramer, who’s now bedridden and on the verge of death. Lynn is told that she must keep the madman alive for as long as it takes Jeff, another of his victims, to complete a game of his own. Racing against the ticking clock of Jigsaw’s own heartbeat, Lynn and Jeff struggle to make it through each of their vicious tests, unaware that Jigsaw and Amanda have a much bigger plan for both of them…
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Directors: Bousman Darren Lynn
Actors: Bell Tobin,Macfadyen Angus,Wahlberg Donnie,Leigh Whannell,Koaho Mpho,Flatman Barry,Bent Lyriq,LaRose J.,Mandylor Costas,Crime,Horror,Thriller,
Why and how? Mirage III victories and defeats?
A few days ago i saw a documentary on you tube about dogfights.They had have recreated dogfight moments by animations.I watched Middle East part and It was telling dogfights from memories of Israeli pilots in 1967 Yom Kippur War. They were using mainly Mirage III vs Egyptian Mig-17s,Mig-19s and Mig-21s. And Israeli pilots were using Mirage III with great efficient and high skilled air maneuvers. And they had achieved a high kill ratio.
I instantly remembered performance of same Mirage IIIs of Argentinian Air force during Falkland War in 1982 vs British Sea Harriers. Mig-21 was better than Sea Harrier in air to air wars but they were defeated by Israeli pilots but British navy didn’t lost single Harrier vs Mirage III.
1-Was there any difference between Israeli and Argentinian versions? Or any technological advantages?
2-Why slower Sea Harriers were too successful vs Mirage IIIs
3-From 1967 to 1982 there are 15 years.Didn’t French developed efficent BVR missiles? Or Argentinians hadn’t got them?
Hello there Basaral
I am the surfer
Happy xmas and a happy new year
The documentary of youtube.com you refer is based from an episode of a tv show of usa tv called " dogfights"
I like that tv show there are several other episodes about vietnam, world war one and two and korea and gulf war 91 us vs iraqi air force . i do wish there would be episodes of tv shows about the war your lovely turkey had versus greece during 75 for cyprus and the battle of pentemelli beach!
There was another tv show from the history channel latin america spanish based about malvinas/falklands war with interviews from the pilots called "malvinas the the war from the sky"
as to your questions now:
2) sea harriers were good versus argentina ?s planes and pilots because of sidewinder missiles aim 9 air to air combat harrier is slow yes, but has better edge for maneuvers!
When it comes about plane designs french designers chose triangular wings called "delta wings" those were good wings for speed , but are so huge that a lot of air is needed to provide constant lift of air under the wing so the wing cannot sustain tight close turns during combat because the wing loses air under it that "bleeds" energy of flight! so israeli pilots learn the trick of the trade in order to upset such disadvantage and make use of it as to the best extent of ability when they did combat against arab pilots , also cockpit design and visibility accounts for a lot too
I recall a pilot of israeli air force by the name danny shapira , he became a good ace and also a test pilot, israeli armed forces intelligence did make a victory by having an arab pilot to defect from his country ( i cannot recall what country the pilot was from!) with his mig plane so israelis knew the tricks of the mig before american cia and pentagon intelligence could knew better! ( and that was during the earlier stages of vietnam war!)
As for question number 1)
any mayor differences between israeli and argentina?s planes ? not that much , same plane, and same skeleton of air frame!
yet however argentina got financial difficulties and also there was human rights violations and arms embargoes so it was difficult for argentina?s armed forces to procure and secure weapons, the mirage they used was old and lacked sufficient navigational aids and modern radars to fly close to the ocean and to hit ships with missiles, when they used bombs to attack royal navy ships they came close to 15 meters above sea level with a primitive radar!
They, the argentina pilots used obsolete air to air missiles to do air combat versus british harriers
3) as for beyond visual radar argentina mirage planes were technologically inferior
they bought from usa scrap junk base called amarc ( aircraft maintenance regeneration center) old a4 sky hawks planes suited to attack royal navy ships
More :
The argentina aviation ( naval and air force) were close to win, they used an old a4 sky hawk with more than 35,000 hours of flight abandoned at a desert from usa, re - build to fly again with some 15,000 hours of use inside argentina armed forces worth 50,000 us dollars of the time to attack frigates , destroyers and cargo ships worth 50 million us dollars ! imagine that a cheap old plane can sunk an expensive frigate! is like using an old horse to attack a powerful big elephant !
Royal navy had several ships hit so much that royal army commander was told by his royal navy superior sandy woodward to hold on another week or the war was lost due to the fact that many ships with supplies were hit and sunk so shortages of supplies put the royal army campaign at peril much like some one losing blood out of a wound so fast that death was closer
many british pilots , soldiers and sailors after the war had said that thy almost lost versus argentina due to the attacks on royal navy ships
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thesurfer | Dec 28, 2009
Difference in training is huge
Also, speed doesn’t matter in dogfights, maneuverability does
Tyler | Dec 28, 2009
Many of Argentina’s Mirage/Dagger fleet were the exact same aircraft used by the IDF in the 67′ and 73′ wars. purchased from Israel in the late 1970’s. Argentine Mirage/Daggers had the primary role of attacking British shipping or ground troops and were operating at the extreme limit of their range. Quite simply they could not and not once did they duke it out with the Harrier’s because to do so meant not having the fuel to make it home. The mission profile was drop bombs, turn and run.
"Efficient" BVR missiles did not exist in any quantity until the early 1990’s (the AIM-7 and Super 530 being anything but) and they have yet to trickle down to 3rd-class powers like Argentina.
Mark F | Dec 28, 2009
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